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Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
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Posted - 2013.04.08 11:21:00 -
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I keep hearing that people wouldn't care if it was one alliance vs. another, but history has shown us that isn't true either.
Personally, I think getting these huge fleets going is unavoidable. You are going to have one side that is always "dont evict pvpers from wh space. it's bad for everyone". Then on the other side of the coin you have the guys that don't want one group of players to dictate how they play the game. This naturally leads to a conflict, where the lines are drawn and sides are chosen. Speaking only for myself, I love this sort of conflict driver. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:48:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:
Go in with good numbers and prove your skill.. hold back some caps and heli D*ck them in at the last minute to tip things in your favor.. But I mean honestly bringing 10 times the numbers to start is just lame.. IMO
Except it wasn't anywhere near 10x the number at the start. Once we started hearing of TL getting on their bat phones is when we called in more people. We knew exactly what came to help you guys and we had to prepare for that. Hell, at one time you guys had roughly 110 fleet based on what I have heard. Add to that the numerous third parties rolling to get in and whatever other allies you had that may have not been in fleet, it would have been a lot more than that.
And just to make it 100% clear, I am not blaming them at all for getting help. You are defending your wh from a possible eviction. You do whatever it takes. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:17:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:
To point out I dident claim you guys specifically.. I just mean in general the first thought when you decide to pew someone is bring out all the things and rage at them with 400.. It would be nice if that wasent the first case..
Tbh there was this other big wormhole eviction attempt I was referring to.. Wink Wink.. Where the first thought was bring all the blues.. Then claim we are here for goodfites..
In your attempt though.. I honestly dont think there would have been so much defence responce if you hadent brought what you did.. Im pretty sure polarized could have done it alone easily.. and 1 v 1 in wormholes is something I think we would all like to see..
Fair enough.
To your 1v1 point though. BITTEN tried that and all it got them was a coalition showing up, so you'll forgive my skepticism when it comes to a siege staying 1v1.
Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:18:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:
Are you sure your timeline is correct? Cause I smell confusion here... And are you completely sure you didn't batphone people in advance cause of some desaster that happened earlier, trying this 'invasion'?
Considering I was there the entire op, I can say with 100% certainty that my timeline is correct. As far as a disaster earlier, I have no idea what that could have been. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:01:00 -
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I thought he meant disaster as in right before our op started, as in something went totally wrong. I would hardly call what happened with you guys a disaster. Thanks for clearing it up.
And again, I will restate what I said. The 110 man fleet was not the only fleet we were planning for. Several other major wh space entities were known to be chain rolling, looking for a route in. Seeing as how we had no contact with said parties, we could only assume they were either with you, or were just looking to ***** on some mails. Either way, more people were trying to get in and they weren't with us.
In conclusion, based on the numbers you had in your defense fleet, plus the number of third parties that we knew about trying to get in, I would say the right call was made to bring in more people. That said, it really sucks that a bigger fight didn't happen. Having never lived in null, I have never been part of a "large" fleet fight. Would have been awesome Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.09 06:12:00 -
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Incindir Mauser wrote:It's always worked along the lines of the following;
If you lose. You were blobbed.
If you win. It was a "good fight".
A few days later you wipe the blood off, shake hands and kick someone else's teeth in, eat some pretzels and drink some beer, then go back to shooting each other in the face.
I can't emphasize this enough. How you treat other people, even your bitterest rivals, matters in W-space. It's a smallish community. Create too much bad blood and it doesn't matter how hardcore you are at PvP. How many are in your corp. Or what your "reputation" is. Someone, more rather, groups of someones is going to push your sandcastle over and bring along scores of other people that you've irritated because you've been an annoying pudknocker.
Feel the urge to sperg in local? Don't. People have LONG memories in W-space. Old age and treachery will always win out over youth and wit.
Plain and simple. There's no over-riding "moral code" in W-space other than "Not purple, shoot it. And treat others with a modicum of respect in Local."
Everything else is fair game.
This. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
406
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Posted - 2013.04.09 06:44:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Bane started it.
Not this! lol Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
409
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Posted - 2013.04.10 05:36:00 -
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To be super technical, we never did perform an eviction. They still had ships logged off in that wormhole, meaning they were still residing there...TAKE THAT GNAW Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
409
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Posted - 2013.04.11 03:13:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote: I had no grudge with TL so I think they didn't deserve it. Same with the rest of EVE.
Considering the amount of people wanting to help us/stayed neutral, I would say that statement is dubious.
Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
409
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Posted - 2013.04.11 08:07:00 -
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Senn Denroth wrote: Wow. I can't even scratch the surface on an explanation to this.
Of that I have no doubt. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
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Bane Nucleus
Anomalous Existence Existential Anxiety
420
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Posted - 2013.04.22 11:32:00 -
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I enjoy a turkey shoot once in a while to be totally honest.
Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
Bane Nucleus
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.27 23:32:00 -
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Less null sec is not the direction wh space is headed. Free Agent |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
447
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:41:00 -
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ktown Hekard wrote:
Just an idea here, but why not organize even number fight, between parties who cant agree on anything and let chips fall where they may?
Because that in itself is anti-wh. Arranged fights go against the very nature of wormhole space. Don't let any of these "we only want good fights" idiots fool you. Wormhole pvp is mainly ganking, with the rest blobbing and the once in a blue moon good fight that actually happens by sheer chance. That is wormhole space.
Free Agent |
Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe R.E.P.O.
448
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Posted - 2013.05.20 23:51:00 -
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I'm sorry to hear that Free Agent |
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